4 to 400 € ... (Read between the lines well)
The title is deliberately provocative! I do not sell any iPhone 32GB 4. I just want to send a message: CAREFUL TO SCAM . Now let me explain better.
about a month follow jobs from iPhone 4 sale. E 'is in such demand that just sold an iPhone 4 16Gb to 550, cause double Christmas gift ", it is immediately sold! So the ads appear and disappear within a few hours. Complice Apple sipping stocks at the stores, on free ads sites are increasingly being proposed sales of the iPhone 4, new packaging, semi-new to be activated or used for few days. All of this demand could only encourage the evil minds of scammers. Now appear fraudulent listings with an attractive title similar to this post.
What I propose below is a real example of
likely well engineered scam.
The price should already be thinking of a scam. Who ever would sell an iPhone 32 Giga 4 360 Euro? But the fact that state the address and phone number of the seller give me a first dose of confidence. I call and I propose now to exchange hands (although have to travel 200km). A kind man by the deep voice tells me it's very busy and traveling a lot for work is not available to the exchange by hand. He prefers me via e-mail details of your account and send the package with its UPS. The announcement on-line is immediately removed.
I get an email full of information from the wife of the self-styled "seller": M. B. Accountant mail address
studiocommerciale.bXXXXXXXX @ hotmail.com Hi, ok, then when I finally confirmed the purchase we can also conclude. For shipping purposes only trust the courier company UPS (c ' work and then I personally manage the shipment). The package will be shipped immediately after confirmation of payment and the day comes successivo.Fornisco also code for shipping the package to monitor online The item will be delivered on the day following the dispatch .. For payment I accept Paypal or Wire Transfer (debit card), I prefer the funds and also because last 'flash, I see proccedo immediately and with dispatch on the same day when I confirm I am the pagamento.Se transfer the funds and certainly we have to wait 2-3 days to pass before I send. Among other things, the charge can now also do the tobacconist with Lottomatica . I've also made a purchase through PayPal paper yesterday, I paid 90 cents to the commission no tobacconist. The PayPal Debit Card number: 5XXX 7XXX 0XXX 9xxx Cxxxxxxx Rxxx letterhead to (and 'my husband). The date of expiry of paper and 'XX / 20XX (must also give this paramenro the tobacco). I repeat that pass and' instant I see him now and then proccedo with the expedition at once, the same day. If prefers the bank, and heading here c'el'IBAN account: Name: Cxxxxxxx Rxxx IBAN: IT 39 X XXXXX XXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXX CAUSE: (may enter the name of the purchased) You see what kind of payment and 'more comfortable.
inviarte I can now also shipping address so I prepare everything at once. I can always contact us by phone at 045.9818XXX.
Appearance info.Un cordial greeting.
begins to investigate. And I reply with this mail.
Dear MB,
Excuse me see maybe paranoid, but before you make a payment on-line search of the guarantees. IBAN number I gave is not tied to a real account, but an Institute for Electronic Money. The CartaLis Imel Spa as a bank but there is only a stock company established by an agreement between Lottomatica and Banca Sella to issue electronic money, among other things, the subject of numerous scams Web . He is writing with an e-mail made out to a commercial studio Bxxxxxxx, which are not able to find on the web and through the yellow pages in the area of \u200b\u200bVerona. At the address indicated in the advertisement ------------ -----------------------------, risulta esserci solo un'agenzia immobiliare ed un Bar. La numerazione telefonica della zona e diversa da quella indicata nell'annuncio. Il numero di telefono non permette d'identificare l'utenza.
Se gentilmente mi potesse perdonare la mia paranoia e fornire altre garanzie le sarei grato.
Cordiali saluti
Secondo voi ho una ricevuto risposta? No. Prima che inoltrassi l'ultima mail ho ricevuto risposte immediate alle mail. Dunque che conclusione avete tratto? La signora M. si è infastidita per la mia paranoia e non mi ha neanche degnato di una risposta? Hanno già venduto l'iPhone un secondo prima che scrivessi l'ultima mail. O semplicemente hanno capito this time not hooked a fool!
likely look at how the scam was well congenital
A) Telephone number and address of the seller
B) Both telephone and in writing we speak of "agency" that by consulting the Yellow Pages and Google Maps with Street View seems to be present at the estate.
C) The mail is sent from an address registered in the name of an accounting firm.
D) is proposed to pay a bank transfer or PayPal
E) For shipment we use UPS for delivery in 24-48 hours and code for shipping.
F) two interlocutori e due nomi e cognomi in chiaro (che ho volutamente omesso).
l'analisi:
A) All'indirizzo indicato ci sono un bar ed una agenzia immobiliare il cui numero di telefono non combacia con quello dell'inserzione. Anzi l'arco di numerazione è completamente diverso ed è riferito probabilmente a numerazione Voip.
B) L'agenzia non sa nulla di una vendita di iPhone.
C) Lo Studio Commerciale B. non esiste nella zona indicata a Verona
D) Il codice IBAN per il bonifico non è legato a un reale conto corrente, ma ad un Istituto per la Moneta Elettronica. La Cartalis Imel Spa non esiste come banca ma é solo una Società per shares resulting from an agreement between Lottomatica and Banca Sella to issue electronic money, among other things, the subject of numerous scams Web . They have a real PayPal account, but a top up card.
Now I can not say that he was cheated because I did not pay anything, because the sellers have not responded to my request for additional collateral. So I can not say with certainty that the gentlemen are the scammers.
But everything seems to ... especially if out of curiosity try to find the phone number in Google and you will see many ads for the sale of the most coveted smartphone has been posted by these individuals.
Another example would be this:
"I am a wholesaler of the iPhone and HTC HD ... Desire sell only 5 / 10 € to 500 pieces each. Delivery by hand with billing ... " Just send an email to request information, we are told that the order to start you first have to pay a "deposit". Then when you find the phones will be available for delivery of the goods and invoice. Too bad that not even the big supermarkets have stocks of the iPhone and that once a deposit is required to be credited on an IBAN code on a card like that mentioned above. It 'also this a scam? I do not for a deposit to 1000-2000 € try it!
last situation that we carry is the sale price of the iPhone 4 in exchange with sieved by hand. Well! Try asking the seriare phone or IMEI number. You can check the serial code at this link
and IMEI through this
another link. These sites will provide you with important information: the phone there! Also you can see some features. But the IMEI could be blacklist. What does this mean? It means that the phone was stolen and the owner has made the complaint. Telephone operators, upon request, they put the IMEI in a "black list" your phone will work but will not be able to make or receive calls or messages. You will see the operator logo but no active mark signal. You can only call 112 ... (Irony!). To see if the IMEI blacklist is call your operator saying, "I'm going to buy a used phone but I want to make sure that it is not stolen. Could check the IMEI ..."
So if you're going to just buy an iPhone through a dating website, follow these simple rules of common sense:
- If you can only buy from sellers in your area.
- ALWAYS ask to exchange hands. Even if you're in Catania and the phone is in Aosta, pretend to be able to find in the area for a business trip: the response of the seller will make you guess about the intentions.
- ask to check serial and IMEI of the phone. This simple request terribly annoying for those who are selling a phone "dubious."
- In general distrust of those who sell at a bargain price.
- not go alone to the appointment of exchange and especially not with money in his pocket. Ask to see the phone and then say that you have to take money away from only to return at another time.
- Use as much common sense
- Do not get caught by the gold fever of the deal.
I hope this post can save someone from online scams.
And finally: just a funny ad ...
